[ayso45-refs] First Pizza night of the fall season / makeup "returning referee" meeting

[Lillie, Brian]

Peter,

I think there were several errors by the ref and coach:

-the ref waived on the players even though the ones to be replaced were still on the field

-the ref didn't tell (or motion) to the sweeper kicking the goal kick to wait 

-the coach let them go on the field before the players came off

-the ref made a decision to give an indirect kick within 6 feet of the goal in a no score game as opposed to simply asking for re-kick

I totally understand that the refs decision is final - no question. I am a coach and a ref and I get that. I just think it was the wrong call and wanted to get the opinion of fellow refs.

No worries,

Brian



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 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Peter Keenan [mailto:pbkeenan at pacbell.net]
Sent:	Saturday, September 01, 2007 09:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
To:	Lillie, Brian
Cc:	Beau James; AYSO Region 45 Referee Mailing List; AYSO Region 45 Coaches Mailing List
Subject:	Re: [ayso45-refs] First Pizza night of the fall season / makeup "returning referee" meeting

Brian,

It may have been the correct call.
But it also sounds like incorrect substitution procedure by the coach.
Each substituted player should leave the field before the sub enters  
and becomes a player.

There is no information in the question on the reason for the  
indirect free kick.
The referee is the one to supply this information.

And, the refs decision is final.  Game is over and we have to learn  
to live with the decisions of others.
There are possible reasons for this to be the correct call.

Join us for Pizza and let's talk it out.

Enjoy the game,
Peter

On Sep 1, 2007, at 8:41 PM, Lillie, Brian wrote:

> Fellow Refs:
>
> I have a question for everyone on a situation I saw in a U-11 game  
> today.
>
> The situation was a goal kick for team A. The ref had waived in  
> subs for team A and they were already on the field and the girls  
> they were replacing were 10 feet from the sideline when the sweeper  
> for team A kicked the goal kick.
>
> The ref stopped play and gave an indirect kick to team B inside  
> team A's goal box (about 6 feet from the box) and team B scored and  
> won the game.
>
> Was that the right call? He had waived the girls in and did not  
> have his hand up to the girl kicking the goal kick. It seems it  
> wasn't a great call given the circumstances -- it truly affected  
> the outcome of the game.
>
> Thanks in advance for your answer to my question,
>
> Brian
>

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