[ayso45-refs] Question / Need Help

[Anna Silverman]

MessageI agree, and I think we should all uniformly do the same thing, requiring that all spectators stay back from the line that distance, and also not down by the box. It is distracting to me when I have parents behind me talking and screaming. If they are down there, they should be silent, or else stay closer to the center. 
Let's all do the same thing, so they can't complain that at last weeks the ref allowed it.
Anna
   
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Barry Bruins (bbruins) 
  To: ayso45-refs 
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Question / Need Help


  Bob has described the technical area as one yard back from the touch line.  That works well for coaches staying out of the way of the AR's.  Spectators and non-playing players need to be farther back.  Three feet is not enough to provide a safe environment for the players.  I always make sure that spectators are ~8 ft back.  It can be very dangerous for the kids to have chairs close to the playing field.  The ball comes out pretty hard sometimes and can be dangerous to toddlers wandering around in front of their parents.

  Barry



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    From: ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org [mailto:ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org] On Behalf Of Bob Henderson
    Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 11:00 AM
    To: 'Craig Doeden'; 'Tom Rudkin'
    Cc: 'Steve Schramm'; 'AYSO Region 45 Refs Mailing List'
    Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Question / Need Help


    Craig,  not sure what you mean by the "zone".

    Coaches, or anyone "coaching" is supposed to be within the Technical Area, the 10 yards on either side of the Mid Line, and back 1 yard from the touch line.

    Spectors,  who may cheer  ("Go Red",  "Good kick"), but not issue tactical coaching instruction ("Annie, get the ball",  "Joe, move back"),  should be on the side, between the Penalty Area lines (the 18 yard line) and not closer that that to the Goal line.     Now, if it is a sunny day and that is where the shade is and they are fairly quiet,  no big deal, right.

    If spectors are creating a problem,   at a stoppage of play,  ask the Referee to ask the Coach to deal with them.


     Bob Henderson
    Altair Grid Technologies - PBS Pro 

      -----Original Message-----
      From: ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org [mailto:ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org] On Behalf Of Craig Doeden
      Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:46 AM
      To: Tom Rudkin
      Cc: AYSO Region 45 Refs Mailing List; Steve Schramm
      Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Question / Need Help


      I've noticed this at a few games where I have been the AR and have asked the parents in the "zone". Should I ask the CR to take it up with the coaches, as well, when I can't get them to stay out of the "zone" area where you have the double white line (sorry, don't know what it's called exactly) on the side line. I keep running into people wandering into the "zone" when the game and associated reffing is going on. Just a question.

      Craig-

      Tom Rudkin wrote: 
Quite aside from the question of whether the parent is actually "coaching" 
or not -- and hence where he might be allowed to be when doing so -- no one 
should ever be allowed to be behind the goal line (except to pass by from 
one side to another, or someone taking photographs, silently, with 
permission of the referee).  Any time you see someone behind the goal line 
who isn't silent, the referee's job is to ask them to move back to one 
touchline or the other and between the edges of the penalty areas.

--Tom Rudkin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Schramm" <steveschramm at yahoo.com>
To: "Mark Shustock" <mshustock at yahoo.com>; "Beau James" 
<b_james at pacbell.net>; "AYSO Region 45 Refs Mailing List" 
<ayso45-refs at ayso45.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Question / Need Help


  Anyone who is coaching, whether it is an official coach or a "coach" as 
you
describe, is supposed to stay within 10 yards of the center of the 
sideline.
You should politely ask that person to remain near the center and they
definitely should not be near the goal if they are coaching or 
"coaching".
\Steve

--- Mark Shustock <mshustock at yahoo.com> wrote:

    I was refereeing a U-7 5 on 5 game this afternoon.  At halftime, an upset
parent from the away team confronted me on the field and said I should 
not
allow a home team parent to "coach" his son (the goalie) from behind the 
net.
 The home team parent was standing there and helping his six year old son
with verbal advice (ex. "pick up the ball", "kick the ball as far as you
can", etc. etc).

  I don't think there's any rule that prohibits this type of coaching, is
there?  Regardless, what's the etiquette?






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