[ayso45-refs] Question / Need Help

[Barry Bruins (bbruins)]

Bob has described the technical area as one yard back from the touch
line.  That works well for coaches staying out of the way of the AR's.
Spectators and non-playing players need to be farther back.  Three feet
is not enough to provide a safe environment for the players.  I always
make sure that spectators are ~8 ft back.  It can be very dangerous for
the kids to have chairs close to the playing field.  The ball comes out
pretty hard sometimes and can be dangerous to toddlers wandering around
in front of their parents.
 
Barry


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	From: ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org
[mailto:ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org] On Behalf Of Bob Henderson
	Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 11:00 AM
	To: 'Craig Doeden'; 'Tom Rudkin'
	Cc: 'Steve Schramm'; 'AYSO Region 45 Refs Mailing List'
	Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Question / Need Help
	
	
	Craig,  not sure what you mean by the "zone".
	 
	Coaches, or anyone "coaching" is supposed to be within the
Technical Area, the 10 yards on either side of the Mid Line, and back 1
yard from the touch line.
	 
	Spectors,  who may cheer  ("Go Red",  "Good kick"), but not
issue tactical coaching instruction ("Annie, get the ball",  "Joe, move
back"),  should be on the side, between the Penalty Area lines (the 18
yard line) and not closer that that to the Goal line.     Now, if it is
a sunny day and that is where the shade is and they are fairly quiet,
no big deal, right.
	 
	If spectors are creating a problem,   at a stoppage of play,
ask the Referee to ask the Coach to deal with them.
	 
	 

	 Bob Henderson
	Altair Grid Technologies - PBS Pro 

		-----Original Message-----
		From: ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org
[mailto:ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org] On Behalf Of Craig Doeden
		Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:46 AM
		To: Tom Rudkin
		Cc: AYSO Region 45 Refs Mailing List; Steve Schramm
		Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Question / Need Help
		
		
		I've noticed this at a few games where I have been the
AR and have asked the parents in the "zone". Should I ask the CR to take
it up with the coaches, as well, when I can't get them to stay out of
the "zone" area where you have the double white line (sorry, don't know
what it's called exactly) on the side line. I keep running into people
wandering into the "zone" when the game and associated reffing is going
on. Just a question.
		
		Craig-
		
		Tom Rudkin wrote: 

			Quite aside from the question of whether the
parent is actually "coaching" 
			or not -- and hence where he might be allowed to
be when doing so -- no one 
			should ever be allowed to be behind the goal
line (except to pass by from 
			one side to another, or someone taking
photographs, silently, with 
			permission of the referee).  Any time you see
someone behind the goal line 
			who isn't silent, the referee's job is to ask
them to move back to one 
			touchline or the other and between the edges of
the penalty areas.
			
			--Tom Rudkin
			
			
			----- Original Message ----- 
			From: "Steve Schramm" <steveschramm at yahoo.com>
<mailto:steveschramm at yahoo.com> 
			To: "Mark Shustock" <mshustock at yahoo.com>
<mailto:mshustock at yahoo.com> ; "Beau James" 
			<b_james at pacbell.net>
<mailto:b_james at pacbell.net> ; "AYSO Region 45 Refs Mailing List" 
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			Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:10 AM
			Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Question / Need Help
			
			
			  

				Anyone who is coaching, whether it is an
official coach or a "coach" as 
				you
				describe, is supposed to stay within 10
yards of the center of the 
				sideline.
				You should politely ask that person to
remain near the center and they
				definitely should not be near the goal
if they are coaching or 
				"coaching".
				\Steve
				
				--- Mark Shustock <mshustock at yahoo.com>
<mailto:mshustock at yahoo.com>  wrote:
				
				    

				I was refereeing a U-7 5 on 5 game this
afternoon.  At halftime, an upset
				parent from the away team confronted me
on the field and said I should 
				not
				allow a home team parent to "coach" his
son (the goalie) from behind the 
				net.
				 The home team parent was standing there
and helping his six year old son
				with verbal advice (ex. "pick up the
ball", "kick the ball as far as you
				can", etc. etc).
				
				  I don't think there's any rule that
prohibits this type of coaching, is
				there?  Regardless, what's the
etiquette?
				
				
				
				
				
				
				      

	
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