[ayso45-coaches] Slide Tackling

Tue Oct 17 03:51:05 EDT 2006

I'm also against allowing slide tackling at this age. Not only do I agree
with the point that several have made, which is that MOST kids at this age
are not old enough to be able to slide properly, but we must also remember
that many of the coaches at this level volunteer Dads that don't know the
game as well as many of you do and are therefore ill-equipped to teach the
proper technique, even if the  kids were able to do it.  And I don't want my
son or daughter hurt by some kid that is still learning how to "get it
right" or at least claims they are.  Also, at this age many kids are still
learning how to be more aggressive about just going after the ball, and a
kid like this who might get better and more aggressive in a safer
environment, could get turned off if they've got kids slamming into them.

I think there is plenty of time for the kids to learn how to tackle properly
and like baseball (as was previously mentioned) there are other sports where
kids are not allowed to slide at this age, even though everyone knows that
it is an important part of the game in upper levels of play, because safety
is more important.

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-----Original Message-----
From: ayso45-coaches-bounces at ayso45.org
[mailto:ayso45-coaches-bounces.at.ayso45.org at smiller.at.mailshell.com]On
Behalf Of Martin family
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 7:15 PM
To: Jorge Bardina; Daniel McDonald
Cc: ayso45-coaches at ayso45.org
Subject: Re: [ayso45-coaches] Slide Tackling

Let me clarify one thing, I am talking about a bunch
of 7 year olds, nothing more, nothing less.  While I
understand everyone's attempt to compare my comments
to grwon up kids or even professional players.  Fact
are facts, UNTIL KIDS ARE PROPOERLY SHOWN HOW TO SLIDE
TACKLE IN A SAFE MANNER, THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS DOING
IT.

--- Jorge Bardina <Jorge.E.Bardina at nasa.gov> wrote:

> I am sorry to bring myself again in to this group.
> I have been playing soccer for far too many years,
> and I did coach in
> this league for a good number of years.
>
> Sliding in a soccer field is not a problem at all,
> as long as it is a
> safe play, either it is done far from any other
> player to retrieve a
> ball, or with no contact with other player.
> Slide tackling another player or making any
> dangerous play is not
> allowed in soccer, and the referees should give the
> proper advice,
> yellow or red card in a dangerous play.
>
> Not even the fact that the player touches the ball
> first is a
> justification to hit another player.
> There is no rule in soccer that says because a
> player touches the
> ball then he or she has the right to kick, hit or
> tackle another player.
> The rules of soccer are simple and clear, and
> dangerous plays are not
> allowed.
>
> Most kids learn how to slide in baseball and they
> even may collide
> with the another player, however, this is not
> allowed in soccer.
> We may also see some professional players sliding to
> retrieve a ball,
> and sometimes they do hit another player and I have
> even heard
> sometimes saying, oh it is fine because this a
> contact sport;
> however, that is a bad call, this is not allowed in
> the rules of soccer.
> Soccer is based on an understanding of fair play and
> gentleman behavior.
> The best example of the English premier league where
> they even look
> at the tapes after the game and they do punish
> players if they see
> any misconduct that was not called during the game.
>
> If a player decides to tackle, he should understand
> that if he misses
> and he hits another player than he will get the
> proper sanction, even
> if the player did not have any intention of hitting
> the other player,
> and the reason is that he indeed did a dangerous
> play.
> A referee can easily see the start of too much
> contact in the field,
> and he or she can set the rules clear before any
> player is injured.
> If the referee lets the game get rough then you do
> have a problem
> because he/she is the main authority in the field.
>
> The best advice that I heard for players is not to
> forget that
> everybody has to go back to school or work on
> Monday.
>
> Remember that soccer is fun and people like to play
> the game and see
> the game to enjoy themselves. The players should
> give a performance
> that is worthwhile watching and that they can feel
> proud of themselves.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jorge Bardina
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Daniel McDonald wrote:
>
> > You bring up a valid concern for players at any
> level: safety.
> > However,
> > slide tackling is part of the game of soccer. I do
> not believe you
> > can put a
> > stop to it. If there are kids of a young age who
> are already slide
> > tackling,
> > the coach had better darn well be teaching them
> how to do it
> > properly and
> > legally. I also have a hard time believing a coach
> can let, or not
> > let, the
> > kids do something on the field that is in the kids
> control. They
> > are playing
> > as much by instinct as deliberation. Soccer is
> just too fast
> > moving. My
> > experience is that you can talk and teach all day
> long, but in the
> > end,
> > there are some kids who won't ever slide tackle
> and others who
> > will, even up
> > to U18 and beyond. Just like some kids won't ever
> head the ball.
> > But if you
> > observe the higher levels of play: heading is
> critical, and so is
> > slide
> > tackling.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dan McDonald
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ayso45-coaches-bounces at ayso45.org
> > [mailto:ayso45-coaches-bounces at ayso45.org] On
> Behalf Of Martin family
> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:33 PM
> > To: bob at starshippilot.com; raulmujica at mac.com;
> ayso45-
> > coaches at ayso45.org
> > Subject: Re: [ayso45-coaches] Slide Tackling
> >
> > I have to say that I am "shocked" that we are even
> > considering letting a bunch of 7 year olds slide
> > tackle.  These kids are 7 and have no idea of how
> to
> > slide tackle properly.  They have a hard enough
> time
> > staying in their proper position.
> >
> > What is it going to take for us to put a stop to
> this?
> >  Some kid breaking another kids leg or better yet,
> a
> > kid trying to slide tackle and missing his target,
> but
> > tripping two other kids as they run over him?  If
> you
> > can tell me that a 7 year old can understand all
> of
> > the fine details of a proper slide tackle, then
> I'll
> > eat my words.
> >
> > Until then, I will not let the kids on my team
> slide
> > tackle, period.
> >
> >
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